Seeing the Supernatural
November 24, 2025
Introduction
The conversation centers on the unseen realm—angels, demons, territorial spirits, and modern phenomena often labeled “aliens” or “UFOs.” Scripture is used to frame a biblical worldview in which spiritual warfare is real, Christ is victorious, and believers are called to live alert, hope-filled lives.
Gathering Information
- Setting: Deliver Free Podcast, Lake Pointe Church, Dallas, TX
- Leaders / Voices: Pastor Josh Howerton, Paul Cunningham, host Carlos Arazzo
Scripture References
2 Kings 6; Numbers 2; Deuteronomy 32:8; Job 38:7; Judges 5:20; Daniel 8:10; Daniel 10; Ezekiel 28:12–17; Mark 5:10; Galatians 1:8; Ephesians 1:18; Ephesians 2:2; Colossians 2:15; Revelation 1:20; Revelation 4; Revelation 12:3–9; 1 John 4:4
Key Points
- One reality, two realms: a visible physical realm and an invisible spiritual realm (2 Kings 6; Ephesians 1:18).
- Angels: created servants of God, powerful and often terrifying (Revelation 4 picture; 2 Kings 6 “chariots of fire”). Possible guardian roles (Hebrews 13:2 implied).
- Demons: fallen angels led by Satan (Ezekiel 28; Revelation 12). Their aims are to steal, kill, destroy, deceive.
- Strongholds vs. ordinary sin: repeated, enslaving patterns may require prayer-and-fasting level spiritual warfare (Mark 5 example; Colossians 2:15 victory).
- Territorial spirits: biblical hints that certain demons exercise regional influence (Daniel 10 “Prince of Persia”; Mark 5:10; Deuteronomy 32:8).
- Counterfeit religions: “whatever God creates, Satan counterfeits” (Galatians 1:8). Founders of several religions reported encounters with “angels” that contradict the gospel.
- UFO / alien encounters: many reports bear hallmarks of demonic deception—messages opposed to Christ, cessation when Jesus’ name is invoked, and concentration in cultures that deny demons (Ephesians 2:2 “prince of the power of the air”).
- Practical spiritual warfare: pray over homes and children, anoint, fast, speak Scripture; problems are often more spiritual than they appear.
- Christian hope: Jesus has disarmed powers and authorities (Colossians 2:15); “greater is He who is in you” (1 John 4:4).
Theological / Exegetical Points
- Ezekiel 28:12-17 reaches behind Genesis to describe Satan’s fall, explaining demons’ origin.
- Revelation 12 links Satan’s rebellion with one-third of the angels, matching the only three named archangels (Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer).
- Old-Testament temple imagery (Numbers 2 tribal layout; Revelation 4 living creatures) shows earthly patterns mirroring heavenly realities.
- Deuteronomy 32:8 indicates God allotted the nations “according to the number of the sons of God,” supporting territorial-spirit theory.
- Hebrews 13:2 and numerous testimonies suggest occasional, unaware encounters with holy angels.
Interaction & Group Responses
- Hosts shared personal or family experiences (angelic protection from choking incident; night-terror deliverance after prayer over rooms).
- Group acknowledged cultural resistance: emotions often used to silence biblical truth (e.g., marriage and family exhortations).
- Clarified that encouraging marriage/children is not a devaluation of singles or infertile couples; it recognises creation’s default pattern.
Practical Applications
- Pray daily for family members; bless and dedicate rooms, possessions, and schedules to Christ’s lordship.
- When facing entrenched sin or oppression, add fasting, enlist trusted believers for intercession, and renounce demonic footholds.
- Test every spiritual experience by Scripture; reject revelations that contradict the gospel (Galatians 1:8).
- Cultivate awareness without obsession: avoid fascination with occult or alien lore that can open doors to deception.
- Seek fresh filling of the Holy Spirit; rely on His power, not merely physical means, to fight spiritual battles.
- Young adults: pursue godly marriage sooner than later if called, raise families in faith, and build rather than complain.
Prayer / Intercession Items
- Protection of homes and children from demonic influence; eyes opened to the Lord’s surrounding help (2 Kings 6).
- Freedom for anyone bound by addictions, fear, or night terrors; release from strongholds.
- Discernment for believers confronted with counterfeit spiritual experiences.
- Comfort for singles and couples longing for marriage or children; fulfilment in Christ while they wait.
- Boldness to share the gospel in a culture fascinated by the supernatural yet ignorant of its true nature.
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